Hello All,
we are happy to announce the *alpha* version of the debian package for .LRN:
download it here:
http://home.galileo.edu/~solca/dotlrn/

If you wanna use it with apt-get ;o), add this to /etc/apt/sources.list:
deb http://home.galileo.edu/~solca/dotlrn/binary/
deb-src http://home.galileo.edu/~solca/dotlrn/source/

In the future you'll be able to do it from here:
deb http://aptproxy.galileo.edu:9999/dotlrn/binary/
deb-src http://aptproxy.galileo.edu:9999/dotlrn/source/

(but the newer ones are now at ~solca)

For installing use: aptitude or `apt-get install dotlrn`
both after doing an `apt-get update`.

Start/Stop it as any other debian service: /etc/init.d/dotlrn

Things to fix yet:

*do not modify permissions for postgres in order to make a connection, needs to edit /var/lib/postgres/data/pg_hba.conf and put 'trust' instead of 'ident sameuser', to allow local connections.
* when you install, just press enter, enter ... since that initial configuration is not yet ready, soon will be.


It supports only PG, but so far its not possible for oracle anyway.

Please test it, and give feedback through this thread.

The author of the package is one of our hackers, Otto Solares (solca@galileo.edu). He followed all the conventions for debian packages, so this is a good candidate to become part of the official debian distribution.
This package has been done at Galileo University, as part of the E-LANE project.

Further adaption to make it just for oacs will be easy.

Enjoy!!!

I added a line:

deb http://home.galileo.edu/~solca/dotlrn/binary/

to /etc/apt/sources.list and then:

root@kirpibox:/home/luigi# apt-get update
E: Malformed line 17 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)

It did not like this line, maybe?

Version 2 of the dotlrn package is ready for testing,
it fixes a lot of problems, as usual, add the following
entries to your /etc/apt/source.list:

deb http://home.galileo.edu/~solca/dotlrn/ binary/
deb-src http://home.galileo.edu/~solca/dotlrn/ source/

remember to `apt-get update` first.

Thanks for the feedback.

Are you running debian sid?  The dependencies for dotlrn exists in sid only.

This package simply will not work for woody.  Probably you can follow the .LRN installation instructions.  It should work for debian sarge but i have not tested so far.

Debian will not remove configuration files if you don't purge
the packages.  If you need to reconfigure dotlrn:

dpkg-reconfigure dotlrn

Too, dotlrn suggests the postgresql package but it doesn't enforce it as a dependency so you can have a different box running the postgres server.

A simple setup with dotlrn and postgres in the same box:

apt-get install dotlrn postgresql

When asked in the dotlrn package setup, the defaults will make it work with a local postgresql server.

Mea culpa: Sorry about my last and stupid question. Just had to createdb dotlrn.

Would be nice to be able to withdraw such a silly statement from public visibility...  Mischa

So here I am back again; everything seems to be installed, aolserver running, postgres running, but still on http://localhost:8000 I just find an adapted version of the aolserver welcomepage, not the dotlrn installation page. Any good ideas would be helpful

Sorry about bothering you again - often it's the easy things which seem of the highest difficulty...

Mischa

I finally able to install dotlrn using your debian package.

First I must edit /etc/init.d/dotlrn from the line:

DAEMON=/usr/sbin/aolserver4-nsd

to:

DAEMON=/usr/sbin/nsd

Then I try to run it again: /etc/init.d/dotlrn start

I point my browser to http://localhost:8000 and I get installation page. I filled it then proceed to installation. It creates the database and said it restart the dotlrn. So I do /etc/init.d/dotlrn start again.

But when I point my browser to http://localhost:8000 I get error. After trying with lynx I find out that:

1. It send a cookie ad_s which I allow
2. then redirect to http://localhost:8000/dotlrn/index
3. then redirect to http://localhost:8000/register/?return%5furl=http%3a%2f%2flocalhost%3a8000%2fdotlrn%2findex
4. then redirect to https://localhost:8000:8443/register/?return%5furl=http%3a%2f%2flocalhost%3a8000%2fdotlrn%2findex

There must be something very wrong because it try to redirect to localhost:8000:8443

Here my system details

Linux zakbox 2.6.6-1-686 #1 Wed May 12 14:57:57 EST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
Debian Sarge/Testing
dotlrn                 2.0.3-2
aolserver4             4.0.5-1
aolserver4-doc         4.0.5-1
aolserver4-nscache     1.5-1
aolserver4-nsldap      0.0.r8-1
aolserver4-nsopenssl   3.0beta12-2
aolserver4-nspostgres  4.0-1
aolserver4-nssha1      0.1-1
postgresql             7.4.2-4

Currently I'm able to workaround the problem by commenting line ns_param nsopenssl from /etc/aolserver4/dotlrn.tcl. Is there more permanent fix, so I could use SSL?

Hi,

Nice to have a debian package for this software !

I was just wondering.

Your package depends on the 'official' debian package of aolserver. But OpenACS relies on a patched version of aolserver, ie it needs

- the patch that makes ns_uuencode  work for binary files

- the patch that makes AOLserver respect the -g flag

How did you get around this ?

Also you might Suggests: libpam-radius-auth

Cheers,

Eric
ericvb@debian.org

> Your package depends on the 'official' debian package of
> aolserver. But OpenACS relies on a patched version of
> aolserver, ie it needs
>
> - the patch that makes ns_uuencode work for binary files
>
> - the patch that makes AOLserver respect the -g flag

Could you add references to these patches?
Shouldn't they be in the Debian package anyway?
If they are not it's time to submit bugs and patches to the Debian maintainer.

That patches that Eric commented were for aolserver-3.x so they are not needed in the aolserver4 Debian package.

I've been using the Debian package of aolserver4 (aolserver4, aolserver4-nscache, aolserver4-nsopenssl, aolserver4-nspostgres and aolserver4-nssha1) for more than two months both in production and development with success, so please try it and report any problems to the Debian bug tracking system.

You could check the package for dotlrn-2.1.0b1 in:

deb http://home.galileo.edu/~solca/dotlrn_beta binary/

It fixes a lot of problems.

Regards,

-otto

I would like to report a few minor problems with your beta debian package (which I could solve)
and a major one (for which I have no clue):
1. At the end of the installation when a dialog box  asks for setting  security settings for the database user in the postgres
pg_hba.conf configuration file the command:
su -  postgres -s /bin/sh -c "createlang plpgsql dotlrn"
fails because the dotlrn database was not created.
        I solved the problem issuing the command: su - postgres createdb dotlrn
2. In the same dialog box the command to "restart the .LRN  server with the following command    /etc/init.d/dotlrn  restart "
fails because there are a few errors in the /etc/init.d/dotlrn script :
the DAEMON variable is incorrect, it should be: DAEMON=/usr/sbin/aolserver4-nsd (instead of /usr/sbin/nsd);
the ADDRESS and PORT variables do not reflect previous user settings and remain at the standard localhost and 80 values
After these corrections the aolserver is started OK and the OpenACS browser based installation proceeds OK.

The unsolved problem:
At the end of the browser based OpenACS installation (when lots of database operations are performed)
and the "Installation finished" message is issued, the following message states that:
"The server has been shutdown. Normally  it should come back by itself.... etc":
the server is shutdown: true; but it does not come back by itself and no errors appear in the log.
After issuing the command  /etc/init.d/dotlrn  restart, a few aolserver process instances do appear in the process list
but the browser cannot connect to the aolserver so the last message that says
click here (here is http://127.0.0.1:8000/dotlrn) will lead to an error trying to access the aolserver
(I have run all the tests locally to make sure there was no network interference)


On the other hand, if  you start the standard aolserver issuing: /etc/init.d/aolserver4 start
the browser will  load the standard aolserver page: "Welcome to your New Home in Cyberspace"
Celio

You can create certificates with the mkcert tool:

http://home.galileo.edu/~obonilla/software/

And a working SSL configuration in the .tcl config file.

Yep.  I removed the old packages, the new dotlrn package is here:

deb http://home.galileo.edu/~solca/dotlrn/ binary/
deb-src http://home.galileo.edu/~solca/dotlrn/ source/

Please test it, report back _ANY_ problem.  I am pretty sure this one is almost _debian_repository_ quality.

Despite the error message in my post yesterday,
I successfully installed dotlrn. Thanks Otto!
What I did (for those who may have found installation problems):
1. apt-get --purge remove aolserver4 (it will also purge and remove a previous dotlrn installation)
if a previous installation try failed you should drop the postgres dotlrn  database and user:
  su - postgres dropdb dotlrn
  su - postgres dropuser www-data
2. apt-get install dotlrn
    I did a localhost installation on port 8000
    (for a network installation you'll have to edit
      the postgres config file pg_hba.conf, as stated in
      the proper dialog box)
3.After the command that tries to create again the database
user www-data, start the dotlrn aolserver as stated:
      /etc/init.d/dotlrn start
4.In your browser point to http://localhost:8000/
You will get the web based dotlrn installation page.
After the dotlrn database filling process, the dotlrn aolserver shutsdown and you have to restart it as above
5. set your browser URL to:
http://localhost:8000/dotlrn
and you will get the dotlrn login page

Hi Otto,

i recognized, that your server is pretty busy. I could offer you another mirror. It is a server at the University of Mannheim(Germany). It has 100MBit and plenty of power/space. You can e-mail me at hedoth[at]gmx.net

Greetings
Patrick

community norms are to use real names in these forums.

talli

Otto, would you mind posting how the packages are built?

Since Debian packages can be used for Debian and Fedora, we get very good coverage with these. If you could document how this is done, then we could move towards making this the default method of installation.

Hello,

i offered a Mirror and Otto agreed, so here it is.

deb http://www.fim.uni-mannheim.de/dotlrn/ binary/
deb-src http://www.fim.uni-mannheim.de/dotlrn/ source/

Patrick

> I've just tried that package, and it works fine, except one
> problem I also had with a manual install : aolserver looks
> for the postgresql socket in /tmp/.s.PGSQL.5432, while it is
> created (default debian startup script) in
> /var/run/postgresql/.s.PGSQL.5432.
>
> I'm not sur if it should try and look for the socket anyway :
> in the logs the network port is specified "Notice: dbdrv:
> opening database 'postgres::5432:dotlrn'". Does this mean
> that the host is not entered correctly ?
> What I have experienced with aolserver is : if the database
> is on localhost, it will try the socket, if it is another ip
> address, it will connect via the network. What is the
> prefered way ?

Could you tell us what Debian packages do you have installed and what packages did you install manually?
Installing most packages from Debian packages is the best idea as upgrades are easier and they work OK from the first time.

Hi to everyone I have an error intalling the .lrn.

Firstable I´d like to know if I should install postgresql before the .lrn :

apt-get install dotlrn postgresql or apt-get intall dotlrn( with postgresql installed)


This is the error message that I got trying to install postgres


root@ubuntu:/var/run/postgresql# apt-get install postgresql-7.4
Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
Creando árbol de dependencias... Hecho
Se instalarán los siguientes paquetes NUEVOS:
postgresql-7.4
0 actualizados, 1 se instalarán, 0 para eliminar y 0 no
actualizados.
1 no instalados del todo o eliminados.
Necesito descargar 2584kB de archivos.
Se utilizarán 8360kB de espacio de disco adicional después de
desempaquetar.
Des:1 http://es.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main postgresql-7.4
1:7.4.8-17ubuntu1 [2584kB]
Descargados 2584kB en 25s (101kB/s)

Preconfigurando paquetes ...
Seleccionando el paquete postgresql-7.4 previamente no seleccionado.
(Leyendo la base de datos ...
69209 ficheros y directorios instalados actualmente.)
Desempaquetando postgresql-7.4 (de
../postgresql-7.4_1%3a7.4.8-17ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...
Configurando dotlrn (2.1.0beta1-4) ...
spawn su - postgres -s /bin/sh -c createuser -A -D -P -E -q www-data
Enter password for new user:
Enter it again:
createuser: could not connect to database template1: could not
connect
to server: No such file or directory
Is the server running locally and accepting
connections on Unix domain socket
"/var/run/postgresql/.s.PGSQL.5432"?
createdb: could not connect to database template1: could not connect
to
server: No such file or directory
Is the server running locally and accepting
connections on Unix domain socket
"/var/run/postgresql/.s.PGSQL.5432"?
dpkg: error al procesar dotlrn (--configure):
el subproceso post-installation script devolvió el código de salida
de
error 1
Configurando postgresql-7.4 (7.4.8-17ubuntu1) ...
Creating new cluster (configuration: /etc/postgresql/7.4/main, data:
/var/lib/postgresql/7.4/main)...
Moving configuration file /var/lib/postgresql/7.4/main/pg_hba.conf
to
/etc/postgresql/7.4/main...
Moving configuration file /var/lib/postgresql/7.4/main/pg_ident.conf
to
/etc/postgresql/7.4/main...
Moving configuration file
/var/lib/postgresql/7.4/main/postgresql.conf
to /etc/postgresql/7.4/main...
Configuring postgresql.conf to use port 5432...
* Starting PostgreSQL 7.4 database server: main The PostgreSQL
server
failed to start. Please check the log
output:/usr/lib/postgresql/7.4/bin/postmaster: para usar SSL, se
deben
activar las conexiones TCP/IP


[fail]

Se encontraron errores al procesar:
dotlrn
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
root@ubuntu:/var/run/postgresql# apt-get install dotlrn
Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
Creando árbol de dependencias... Hecho
dotlrn ya está en su versión más reciente.
0 actualizados, 0 se instalarán, 0 para eliminar y 0 no
actualizados.
1 no instalados del todo o eliminados.
Necesito descargar 0B de archivos.
Se utilizarán 0B de espacio de disco adicional después de
desempaquetar .
Configurando dotlrn (2.1.0beta1-4) ...
spawn su - postgres -s /bin/sh -c createuser -A -D -P -E -q www-data
Enter password for new user:
Enter it again:
createuser: could not connect to database template1: could not
connect
to server: No such file or directory
Is the server running locally and accepting
connections on Unix domain socket
"/var/run/postgresql/.s.PGSQL.5432"?
createdb: could not connect to database template1: could not connect
to
server: No such file or directory
Is the server running locally and accepting
connections on Unix domain socket
"/var/run/postgresql/.s.PGSQL.5432"?
dpkg: error al procesar dotlrn (--configure):
el subproceso post-installation script devolvió el código de salida
de
error 1
Se encontraron errores al procesar:
dotlrn
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg retuon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686
GNU/Linux





I know that is long but this is what I got. ¿¿any help??

Noticed the site is down. What is the status of the Debian installer?