Forum OpenACS Q&A: Re: Sysadmin meeting at Valencia

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2: Re: Sysadmin meeting at Valencia (response to 1)
Posted by Rocael Hernández Rizzardini on 11/11/08 08:29 PM
apache migration is something we have to address, or at least know what are we going to do with the unmaintained aolserver, good topic to talk about.
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3: Re: Res: Re: Sysadmin meeting at Valencia (response to 2)
Posted by Jose Agustin Lopez Bueno on 11/12/08 12:07 PM
Hello!

I think of it is a very good idea.

See you next week!

Regards,
Agustin

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4: Re: Sysadmin meeting at Valencia (response to 2)
Posted by Brian Fenton on 11/12/08 02:36 PM
Naviserver seems to be very well maintained
http://naviserver.sourceforge.net/w/NaviServer
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5: Re: Sysadmin meeting at Valencia (response to 4)
Posted by Don Baccus on 11/13/08 02:02 PM
Are you using NaviServer in production environments at Qwest? Given AOLserver 4.5 headaches, it might not be a bad idea to consider it.

I've looked at Apache migration, starting with the old aD code for ACS 3x that ran with Apache 1.3. It could probably be resurrected though the amount of engineering effort required to make it production-quality would be fairly large.

Both of these options are things that might be fun to talk about in Vienna, even informally over beer at night if there's no time available during the days.

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Posted by Don Baccus on 11/13/08 02:04 PM
The last Unix NaviServer release has been 2.5 years ago, however I do see that there's been more recent action on the Windows front. So they're apparently active.

I don't worry too much about the lack of a recent unix release if it's rock-solid. If it works, don't break it, no problem. However I don't know of anyone using it for production OpenACS 4.x sites.

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Posted by Don Baccus on 11/13/08 02:19 PM
There are active commits in the NaviServer source tree, that's encouraging.
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7: Re: Sysadmin meeting at Valencia (response to 6)
Posted by Gustaf Neumann on 11/13/08 02:23 PM
The last released version of naviserver works with OpenACS (or at least, worked, the last time i have tried it). See here for the changes https://openacs.org/forums/message-view?message_id=353949

The current version of OpenACS does not work due to various reasons, but it is an effort of - i think - less than one week to get it running. Neophytos is running phigita.net on a snapshot of naviserver, but he is not really using OpenACS, but a strongly modified clone. Naviserver is well maintained but a moving target. I said a year ago or so that i will try get OpenACS running on Naviserver, once there is a new release as a reference point.

I do not see a big problem with the current situation of Aolserver. If a real problem shows up, or maintenance becomes a problem, we will move our apps to naviserver.

Going to apache is a long way, and i am not sure about the advantages, esp. when c-code modules from aolserver are involved.

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9: Re: Sysadmin meeting at Valencia (response to 7)
Posted by Steffen Tiedemann Christensen on 11/13/08 02:28 PM
When would a sysadmin meeting be? Nov 18th, 19th or 20th?

i am not sure about the advantages, esp. when c-code modules from aolserver are involved
It just seems to eliminate a lot of other moving parts; and it would make it easier for OpenACS to fit in a standard LAMP box, since aolserver seems to be the hardest thing to keep running...
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10: Re: Sysadmin meeting at Valencia (response to 9)
Posted by Héctor Romojaro on 11/13/08 02:51 PM
Hi all,

19th afternoon seems to be free, after the .LRN consortium presentation ( http://aulavirtual.uv.es/ficheros/view/agendax18x19.htm ).

We can have the meeting then, and go dinner after that 😉